ILA’s official podcast, Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders, offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Host Scott Allen and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.

The ILA also partners with ILA Member Maureen Metcalf on a series of global leadership episodes each year within the Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future podcast. ILA Members Lauren Bullock and Dan Jenkins partner with ILA to feature the work of ILA members on a series of episodes within the Leadership Educator Podcast.

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

Strategic Thinking

ILA Board Member, Dr. Susan Murphy, talks with Scott about her work at the University of Edinburgh, strategic thinking, and leadership development throughout one’s lifetime.

Both/And Thinking

Scott talks with Dr. Wendy K. Smith whose research aims to help leaders (and all humans) more effectively manage paradoxes with both/and thinking.

Three Stories of Lincoln & Complex Decision Making

Scott talks with Dr. Jonathan White whose most recent book, A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House, just won the prestigious Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize.

Take Command

Joe Hart, President and CEO of Dale Carnegie Training discusses his new book Take Command.

Women and Leadership: Why It Matters

Sherylle J. Tan and Lisa DeFrank-Cole discuss their latest work on women and leadership contributing to the Discovering Leadership textbook and their new edited book A Research Agenda for Gender and Leadership.

The Many Faces of JEDI

Dr. Aftab Erfan and Amiel Handelsman join Scott to explore the complex intersection of adult development and justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

Persistent, Patient, and Creative

Scott interviews H.E. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović, Croatia’s 4th President (2015-2020) and 1st female President. She is an expert on international diplomacy, security, and human rights.

Vladimir Putin: Leader of the Year, 2022

Dr. Barbara Kellerman joins Scott to discuss her pick for leader of the year – Vladimir Putin. Kellerman is one of the world’s leading experts on the impact of bad leadership and bad followership.

We Have a Measurement Problem

Scott talks with organizational transformation expert, Dr. Jimmy Parker. “You will love his creativity and mindset. His
approach to the work is inspiring!”

If People Could Only Think Better

Iva Vurdelja discusses dialectical thinking and applying adult cognitive development models to measuring the capacities needed to lead complex organizational change.