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Leader (and Follower) of the Year 2023

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leadership Podcast. Episode 211 Dr. Barbara Kellerman - Leader (and Follower) of the Year 2023. The Official Podcast of the International Leadership Association

Guest: Dr. Barbara Kellerman


ILA Lifetime Achievement Award winner Dr. Barbara Kellerman joins Scott to discuss her picks (or not!) for leader and follower of the year for 2023.

Dr. Barbara Kellerman was Founding Executive Director of the Center for Public Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School; the Kennedy’s School’s James MacGregor Burns Lecturer in Leadership; and a member of the Harvard faculty for over twenty years. She is currently a Fellow at the Center. Kellerman is the author and editor of numerous books including:The End of Leadership (2012); Hard Times: Leadership in America (2014), Professionalizing Leadership (2018), Leaders Who Lust: Power, Money, Sex, Success, Legitimacy, Legacy (2020), and The Enablers: How Team Trump Flunked the Pandemic and Failed America (2021). Her latest book (2024) is Leadership From Bad to Worse. She was a cofounder of the International Leadership Association.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott J. Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Robert M. Ginn Institute Professor for Leadership & Social Responsibility at John Carroll University. Allen is a professor of management and teaches courses in leadership, the future of work, and executive communication.

Scott has published more than 60 book chapters and peer-reviewed journal articles. He is the co-author of The Little Book of Leadership Development: 50 Ways to Bring Out the Leader in Every EmployeeEmotionally Intelligent Leadership: A Guide for College StudentsCaptovation: Online Presentations by Design;  and the textbook Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success (2023).

In addition to writing and teaching, Scott consults, facilitates workshops, and leads retreats across industries. Learn more about Scott at

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live. Phronesis is the official podcast of the International Leadership Association. 

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