Podcasts
ILA’s official podcast, Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders, offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Host Scott Allen and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.
The ILA also partners with ILA Member Maureen Metcalf on a series of global leadership episodes each year within the Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future podcast. ILA Members Lauren Bullock and Dan Jenkins partner with ILA to feature the work of ILA members on a series of episodes within the Leadership Educator Podcast.

A House Built by Slaves
Dr. Jonathan W. White discusses his most recent book, A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House.
Beyond Whiteness in Leadership Theorizing
While race is rarely spoken about within leadership theorizing, Dr. Donna Ladkin, Dr. Cherie Bridges Patrick, & Dr. Marion Missy McGee deconstruct leadership theories to reveal the unconscious racial perspectives behind them.
Minds at Work
Dr. Deborah Helsing, an expert in adult development and Immunity to Change, joins Scott to discuss how to assist individuals, teams, and organizations making personal and collective change. She also shares her personal leadership journey and how to connect with people you can learn from, grow with, and continue on with.
Two Turntables and the Right Tone
Scott and guest Dr. Matt Dearmon discuss practice and theory in corporate leadership development. Matt has a Ph.D. in Curriculum and Instruction from UT-Austin and guides leadership and professional development at the global enterprise level.
Is That a Butterfly?
World-renowned body language expert, Mark Bowden shares insights with Scott from his best-selling books, highly acclaimed TEDx talk on The Importance of Being In-Authentic, and the weekly YouTube sensation, The Behavior Panel.
Our Life Is What Our Thoughts Make It
Scott is joined by Joe Hart, President & CEO of Dale Carnegie Training. In 2019, Hart was named CEO Forum Magazine’s top 12 Transformative Leaders in the U.S. for his leadership of the “One Carnegie” global cultural and change management program that he initiated within the company.
Proactivity
Proactivity (including leadership) means thinking about the future and acting strategically to change current trajectories to avoid future problems and create better futures. Dr. Tom Bateman joins Scott.
Welcoming the Butterflies
Dr. Assegid Habtewold shares strategies for emerging leaders that he writes about in his new book Overcoming 1st Timer Syndrome: 11 Antidotes to Thrive Beyond First-Time Leadership Pitfalls.
I’m Gonna Walk With You
Ex-professional bodyboarder Brendan Newton – recruitment manager for the Australian Indigenous Mentoring Experience (AIME) – joins Scott to discuss his work inspiring others and serving the disadvantaged.
What We Have Right Now Is a History Lesson
Dr. David Rosch returns to Phronesis to discuss the state of the field of leadership studies.
A Brave Space
Scott chats with ILA’s Lifetime Achievement Award winner Dr. Ronald Heifetz, one of the foremost authorities on the practice and teaching of leadership.
The Evolving Self
Scott chats with Reo Watanabe, one of the founding members of the International College of Liberal Arts (iCLA) in Japan, established in 2015 to educate future global leaders from Japan through an innovative liberal arts curriculum.