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Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Joe Hart


Scott is joined by Joe Hart, President & CEO of Dale Carnegie Training. In 2019, Hart was named CEO Forum Magazine’s top 12 Transformative Leaders in the U.S. for his leadership of the “One Carnegie” global cultural and change management program that he initiated within the company.

About Joe Hart

Joe Hart is the President/CEO of Dale Carnegie Training, a company whose founder pioneered the human performance movement more than 100 years ago and has continued to succeed and grow worldwide, through constant research and innovation building on its founding principles.

Dale Carnegie has more than 3,000 trainers and consultants, operating in 200 offices in 86 countries around the world, impacting organizations, teams, and individuals. The Company’s client list includes more than 400 of the Fortune Global 500, tens of thousands of small to mid-sized organizations & over eight million individuals across the globe.

Since joining Dale Carnegie in 2015 as its President/CEO, Hart has initiated many important changes which have accelerated the Company’s transformation, including a global cultural and change management initiative called “One Carnegie” which has increased internal team collaboration and customer focus, as well as strategic accounts by over 200%; a successful worldwide rebranding of the iconic Dale Carnegie name; and a dramatic digital transformation across the company’s global footprint from nearly 100% in-person delivery to more than 75% online and blended programs in less than nine months (as chronicled in a 2020 Forbes Interview). In 2019, CEO Forum Magazine named Hart one of 12 Transformative Leaders in the U.S.

A visionary, risk-taking leader, Hart helped build two technology-based companies, including an e-learning business called InfoAlly. In 2005, Hart sold that company and became the President of a new company he helped form called Asset Health. Today, Asset Health is a privately held and fast-growing education technology, health promotion, and training company that serves Fortune 1,000 companies, major health systems, and other large businesses.

Hart holds a bachelor’s degree in political science from the University of Michigan and a law degree from Wayne State University. He is an avid runner, having competed in many marathons including Boston, Chicago, New York, and Berlin, among others. Hart is married and has six children.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.