ILA Podcast

We Are Varied, Dimensionally Complex Creatures

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with David McCallum


Jesuit priest and leadership educator David McCallum joins Scott. McCallum is founding Executive Director of the Program for Discerning Leadership, which provides leadership formation for senior Vatican officials. 

Quote From This Episode

“We are all on that journey of trying to show up as our better selves. But the reality is that our context and the conditions in which we’re situated are constantly squeezing our developmental capacity.”

About David McCallum

David McCallum, S.J., Ed.D is a Jesuit priest and leadership educator. He serves as the founding Executive Director of the Program for Discerning Leadership, a special project of the General Curia of the Society of Jesus, Georgetown, and the Gregorian University. The Program provides leadership formation for senior Vatican officials and major superiors of religious orders in Rome, Italy, and internationally.

He is a facilitator for mission-driven, personal and organizational development programs, provides developmentally informed executive coaching, and delivers leadership development programs and spiritual retreats internationally. He co-founded the Contemplative Leaders in Action program (CLA), an initiative of the Office for Ignatian Spirituality (USA East Coast Province), as well as the Global Jesuit Case Series, the Mission Integration Institute at the University of San Diego, and the Ignatian Leadership Program for the Conference of European Provincials of the Society of Jesus.

Currently, Fr. McCallum lives in Rome and serves as a member of the Secretariat for the Synod of Bishops Commission on Methodology, supporting the Synodal process initiative by Pope Francis, and as adjunct faculty in the Institute for Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies of Human Dignity and Care (IADC) at the Pontifical Gregorian University.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.