ILA Podcast

So Many Myths to Fight

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Dr. Sara Saeed Khurram


2021 WE Empower UN SDG Challenge Winner Dr. Sara Saeed Khurram, Co-Founder & CEO of Sehat Kahani joins Scott to discuss home-based women doctors in Pakistan meeting the country’s healthcare challenges. 


“So they thought that until a doctor checks a pulse of a patient, there is no healthcare. So many myths to fight…”

“What motivates me is my two daughters. I’m doing this for the day that they don’t have to ask anyone when they do something for themselves. So I believe that if they see me making my own decisions, they will feel much more empowered to make their own decisions.”

Dr. Sara Saeed Khurram

Sara Saeed Khurram, M.D. is the Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Sehat Kahani. Sehat Kahani works on improving basic health care in communities through a spectrum of services focused on primary health care consultation, health awareness, and health counseling. Dr. Sara Saeed recently won the APTECh Young Entrepreneurs award for Sehat Kahani, and her work was also featured in a BBC documentary.

Dr. Sara Saeed Khurram has won notable awards including CRDF Global, Ashoka Changemakers, ISIF Asia, the Unilever Sustainable Living Young Entrepreneurs Awards, and the Unicef-Global Goal Campaigner Award 2016 for her role formerly with doctHERs. She has been part of a well-known accelerator in Pakistan, Invest2 Innovate. She is also a part of the regional Acumen fellowship cohort 2016.

Dr. Sara Saeed Khurram grew up in Karachi, Pakistan. She completed her MBBS from DOW University of Health Sciences, and she is a graduate of the Health Policy Management Programme at The Aga Khan University of Health Sciences.

She is a 2021 WE Empower UN SDG Challenge Winner.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.