ILA Podcasts

ILA partners with ILA Fellows and members on the following:

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is produced in partnership with ILA Fellow and past ILA Board member Scott J. Allen and is ILA’s official podcast. ILA Fellow Maureen Metcalf partners with ILA on a series of Global Leadership episodes within her podcast Innovating Leadership. ILA Members Lauren Bullock and Dan Jenkins partner with ILA to feature the work of ILA members on a series of episodes within the Leadership Educator Podcast.

Recent Episodes

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leadership Podcast. Episode 198 - Dr. George Goethals - Reflections on Jim Burns. The Official Podcast of the International Leadership Association

Reflections on Jim Burns

ILA 2022 Lifetime Achievement Award Winner George (Al) Goethals shares a fascinating first-hand account of one of the beginnings of leadership studies, including the role of Jim Burns, Georgia Sorenson, and others.

Nurturing Peace from the Ashes of Violence. Innovating Leadership Co-Creating Our Future. With Maureen Metcalf.

Nurturing Peace From the Ashes of Violence

Hyppolite Ntigurirwa shares his story of surviving the Rwandan genocide and turning his mind from vengeance to peace and reconciliation. ILA Board Chair Mike Hardy joins in to discuss his own work pointing leaders to peace and his friendship with Ntigurirwa.

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

ILA’s Official Podcast, Phronesis, offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Phronesis founder and Host Scott J. Allen and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live. Phronesis is the official podcast of the International Leadership Association. Listen Notes ranks Phronesis in the top 5% of the more than two million podcasts they track. Phronesis recently exceeded more than 100,000 downloads.  Phronesis guests range from former Primer Ministers to C-Suite leaders to leadership scholars, educators, and development professionals.

Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future

The International Leadership Association is proud to partner with Innovating Leadership on a yearly series of episodes on global leadership with special ILA speakers, members, and guests.

The pace of change in the world is increasing exponentially. Leadership must evolve. And that gets to the heart of Innovating Leadership’s mission: To bring you the latest thoughts on leadership so you can innovate, learn, and evolve…growing your team, your business, and yourself! Host Maureen Metcalf interviews world leaders, global business and NPO executives, thought leaders, and researchers in a wide range of industries. It’s a breadth of perspectives unavailable anywhere else. 

The Leadership Educator Podcast

The ILA is proud to partner with the Leadership Educator podcast on a series of episodes each year that feature the work of ILA members.

Teaching leadership is hard. Join professors Dan Jenkins and Lauren Bullock, leadership educators with 25+ yrs experience in curricular and co-curricular leadership programs in higher education, as they capture in dialogue questions from their peers and share knowledge and expertise on facilitating leadership learning. Passionate about leadership education? Want to expand your resource toolbox with practical strategies for teaching, learning, and program design? This is the podcast for you!

Podcasts by ILA Members

ILA members produce a wealth of leadership resources each year ranging from op-eds to journal articles and books to webinars and podcasts.  If you’re an ILA member hosting a podcast, reach out to us at and ask to be listed on this page! 

Lead & Follow offers a candid discussion of collaboration, teamwork, training, and organizational development. ILA member and Host Sharna Fabiano, chair of ILA’s Followership member community, talks with educators, consultants, and professionals of all kinds to explore the relational dance between leadership and followership, and how to become excellent in both roles.