with Drs. Kathy Guthrie and Gayle Spencer
- 6 July 2026
Share this podcast:
In this episode, Dan and Lauren are joined by Dr. Kathy Guthrie, Professor of Higher Education and Leadership at Florida State University, and Dr. Gayle Spencer, Senior Director of the Illinois Leadership Center at the University of Illinois. Together, Guthrie and Spencer co-edited New Directions for Student Leadership Issue #187: General Principles for Advancing Leadership Programs (Fall 2025) alongside the late Rian Satterwhite. This conversation honors both the issue and Rian’s foundational contributions to the work.
Kathy and Gayle share how the issue came together through the work of ILA’s Committee for the Advancement of Leadership Programs. Each of the five core areas of the ILA General Principles — context, conceptual framework, content, learning, and metrics/outcomes/assessment — gets one chapter that deepens the knowledge base and one that shows real application.
Listen for why the general principles are a living document worth revisiting early and often, especially as the contexts leadership educators teach and lead in keep shifting.
More information:
ILA’s Committee for the Advancement of Leadership Programs – The project works to advance the ongoing leadership learning efforts of the ILA General Principles and Guiding Questions living documents on programmatic development and review. Find additional podcasts, webinars, and more.
ILA’s Leadership Program Consulting Services – The International Leadership Association (ILA) offers expert consulting services to organizations and institutions seeking to create, enhance, or assess leadership programs. Our consulting model leverages the evidence-based ILA General Principles for Leadership Programs framework, developed through extensive research and authenticated across diverse institutional contexts.
About the Hosts
Lauren Bullock is an Assistant Professor of Instruction at Temple University, where she teaches leadership development and public relations courses. Before transitioning to full-time faculty, Lauren led the university’s leadership development co-curricular programs for six years. Before joining Temple in 2008, Lauren worked in athletic administration at Florida State University and the University of Texas at Austin.
Dan Jenkins is Professor of Leadership & Organizational Studies at the University of Southern Maine. He received his doctorate in Curriculum & Instruction with an emphasis in Higher Education Administration from the University of South Florida. Dan has published more than 40 articles and book chapters on leadership education and is the co-author of The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning. As an award-winning international speaker and facilitator, Dan has engaged thousands of leadership educators, students, and professionals on topics such as leadership pedagogy, followership, and curriculum and course design. Dan is also a past Chair of the ILA Leadership Education MIG, Co-Founder of the ILA Leadership Education Academy, Co-Host of The Leadership Educator Podcast, Vice-Chair of the Collegiate Leadership Competition, and Co-Lead of the Association of Leadership Educators Teaching & Pedagogy/Andragogy Focus Area Network. Follow Dan @Dr_Leadership.
About the Leadership Educator Podcast
Teaching leadership is hard. Join professors Dan Jenkins and Lauren Bullock, leadership educators with 25+ yrs experience in curricular and co-curricular leadership programs in higher education, as they capture in dialogue questions from their peers and share knowledge and expertise on facilitating leadership learning. Passionate about leadership education? Want to expand your resource toolbox with practical strategies for teaching, learning, and program design? This is the podcast for you!
The ILA is proud to partner with members Dan Jenkins and Lauren Bullock on a series of episodes each year featuring the work of ILA members. Visit www.leadershipeducator.com to listen to all of Dan and Lauren’s podcasts.
