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On Eggs & Airlines

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leadership Podcast. Episode 188 - Dr. Henry Mintzberg - On Eggs and Airplanes. The Official Podcast of the International Leadership Association

with Dr. Henry Mintzberg


ILA Lifetime Achievement Award Winner Dr. Henry Mintzberg draws on examples from his life as an acclaimed scholar, educator, and passionate outdoorsman to offer insights into how people navigate an often bewildering array of personal and professional affiliations that indelibly impact our lives.


“I’m trying to rebalance society…the world just won’t listen. I don’t know why.”

About Dr. Henry Mintzberg

Dr. Henry Mintzberg is a name known to many. He’s a writer and educator — most of his work focuses on managing organizations, developing managers, and rebalancing societies (which is where his attention is currently focused).

After receiving his bachelor’s degree in Mechanical Engineering from McGill University in Montreal (1961), working in Operational Research for the Canadian National Railways (1961-1963), and doing his masters and Ph.D. at the MIT Sloan School of Management (1965 and 1968), He made his professional home at McGill. He’s had extensive visiting professorships at INSEAD in France and the London Business School in England.

He’s authored 20 books, including Managers not MBAs, Simply Managing, Rebalancing Society: Radical Renewal Beyond Left, Right, and Center, and Managing the Myths of Health Care. He also authored 180 articles plus numerous commentaries and videos. A collection has recently been published under the title Bedtime Stories for Managers and in 2023 the volume Understanding Organizations…Finally!: Structuring in Sevens came out.

He’s also an outdoorsman and collector of beaver sculptures!

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live. Phronesis is the official podcast of the International Leadership Association.