ILA Podcast

Leadership Theory and Practice: Lifetime Achievement Recognized

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with Keith Grint and Joanne Ciulla

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Throughout two decades of “advancing leadership knowledge and practice for a better world,” the International Leadership Association has held space for dialogue, deep exploration, and the exchange of ideas at the intersection of leadership theory and practice and into a powerful, innovative network focused on a deeper understanding of the process of leadership. This interview is with the two 2018 inductees Keith Grint and Joanne Ciulla who have distinguished themselves for the advancements over long and successful careers. While it is impossible to share a full career in a short interview, they share some of their latest thinking. Keith talks about how leaders categorize problems and decision styles. His focus in this conversation is getting leaders to think about the world in a way that relates to the problem and provides better outcomes. Joanne, as an expert in ethical leadership as her field of study for the last 25 years talks about ethics in our current time.

About the Guest

Keith Grint

Keith Grint is Professor of Public Leadership at Warwick University in Coventry, England and a Fellow of the British Academy of Social Sciences. Before switching to an academic career, Grint spent ten years as a bluecollar worker and held a number of jobs including postman, freezer operative, and karate instructor. This background and perspective has grounded his teaching and scholarship. As a founding co-editor of Leadership, an academic journal published by SAGE, and as co-founder of the International Studying Leadership Conference, Grint has played an important role in the development of the field by building a community of international, interdisciplinary, leadership researchers taking critical approaches to leadership. A prolific writer, Grint has penned more than ninety journal articles and book chapters and has written or edited a number of landmark leadership books. His recent research includes mindfulness in high-reliability organizations and leadership romanticism.

Professor Joanne Ciulla is a pioneer in the field of leadership ethics. Her research on the ethical challenges of leadership is interdisciplinary but draws heavily on literature in philosophy and history. She also does extensive research in business ethics. Prior to joining Rutgers, she held the Coston Family Chair in Leadership and Ethics at the Jepson School of Leadership Studies (University of Richmond), where she was one of the founding faculty of the school, which is the first degree granting liberal arts school of leadership studies in the world. Ciulla has held academic appointments at Harvard Business School, The Wharton School, LaSalle University, and numerous visiting appointments outside of the U.S., including the UNESCO chair in Leadership Studies at the United Nations International Leadership Academy in Jordan. She is a Fulbright Specialist, which allows her to work with institutions outside of the US on programs and research related to ethics and leadership.

Host Maureen Metcalf

Maureen Metcalf

Maureen Metcalf brings 30 years of experience and success in the fields of leadership, innovation, and technology. A regular contributor to, Metcalf has authored an award-winning book series on leadership and is the Founder & CEO of the Innovative Leadership Institute. She is the host of an Innovating Leadership, a weekly international podcast that hit the airways in July 2015. As an ILA Fellow, Maureen partners with the International Leadership Associate on a series of global leadership podcasts within the show.