ILA Podcast

Consciously Designing our Destiny

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Éliane Ubalijoro


Quotes From This Episode

  • “So that’s when the meeting of all our senses and science come together. And we realize that this isn’t about politics, this is about humanity and survival.”
  • “This is where I think science meeting indigenous wisdom is really important. Indigenous wisdom really was, has always been, based on storytelling…our capacity to tell stories that speak to our minds, our hearts, and our souls.”
  • “Coming from a country in Africa, which is one of the smallest, and most fragile post-conflict countries in the world… we have to imagine everything. So what we’re looking for aren’t managers, we’re looking for leaders that have the capacity to dream and to execute their dreams into reality. And so that is all about leadership and transformation.”

About the Guest

Dr. Éliane Ubalijoro is the Deputy Executive Director (Programmes) of GODAN Secretariat and a Professor of Practice for Public-Private Sector Partnerships at McGill University. She is a member of the Supervisory Board of the Capitals Coalition, a member of the board of advisors for ShEquity, and an executive board member of Crop Trust. Dr. Ubalijoro is a member of Rwanda’s National Science and Technology Council and a Fellow of the African Academy of Sciences. We met while serving on the board of the International Leadership Association.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.