ILA Podcast

A System of Control, Command, and Fear

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Emilio Iodice


Decorated American diplomat and professor, Emilio Iodice, discusses the qualities leaders of democracies need in the 21st century. He also shares his take on Russian President Vladimir Putin, relating his style of leadership to that Mussolini.

Quotes From This Episode

“Mussolini was a man of enormous charisma and detail. Detail was everything for Mussolini…and Mussolini understood how to control and disseminate messages. He was a master at it.”

“Putin’s following Mussolini’s playbook. The manual is, I’m sure, on his desk somewhere.”

About Emilio Iodice

Emilio Iodice is an award-winning author, presidential  historian, executive, decorated American diplomat, and professor. He spent over three decades as a senior executive in the public and private sectors, educator, and university administrator.  He is among the most decorated officers in American history with a gold medal for heroism, a gold and silver medal for exemplary service, nominations for the Bronze Medal, and numerous commendations and citations. At age 33, he was named by the President of the United States to the prestigious Senior Executive Service as a Charter Member.  He was the youngest career public official to reach this distinction. After the Foreign Service, he was named Vice President of Lucent Technologies, in charge of operations in numerous countries. In 2007, he was named Director and Professor of Leadership of the John Felice Rome Center (JFRC) of Loyola University Chicago.  He served as Director until 2016.

Select publications by Professor Iodice:  The Commander in Chief: The Qualities Needed of Leaders of Freedom-Loving Nations in the 21st Century (book);Will the Real Commander in Chief Please Stand Up? (article); Reflections, Stories of Love, Leadership, Courage and Passion (book); When Courage Was the Essence of Leadership: Lessons from History (book); and  Across Time and Space: Chronicles of Courage, Hope, Love, Persistence and Leadership (book).

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.