ILA Podcast

There’s a Gap (Maybe Two)

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Lauren Bullock and Dan Jenkins


Quotes from This Episode

  • On having conversations about difficult topics – “it’s this mixture of efficacy, confidence, and vulnerability that you have to approach this work with. And also, sometimes it’s acknowledging your own ignorance.”
  • “I mean, if you saw the Google Doc that I’m looking at it now, it’s about 30-pages long. We’ll never…there’s not enough hours in our lives, to be able to interview all the different guests and to cover all the different topics that we have.”
  • “I think the biggest gap centers around the intersection with diversity, equity, inclusion, and leadership theories.”

About the Guest

Lauren Bullock and Dr. Dan Jenkins are the founders of the Leadership Educator Podcast. Lauren is Assistant Professor for Instruction and teaches undergraduate leadership and public relations courses in the Klein College of Media and Communication at Temple University. Dan is Department Chair & Associate Professor of Leadership Studies at the Univesity of Southern Maine. His most recent books were co-authored with Kathy Guthrie – The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning and Transforming Learning: Instructional and Assessment Strategies for Leadership Education.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.