ILA Podcast

A Generational Optimist

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Corey Seemiller


Quotes from This Episode

  • “When I got into this generational work, I wanted to have a positive spin on it, especially as an educator.”
  • “It’s really an interesting journey to be along for the ride with this young generation as they’re experiencing the same things I am, but in a very different way. And in a very different context.”
  • “…this is just one of the hundreds, if not thousands, of examples of a Gen Zer saying, ‘I don’t trust leaders to make decisions that are in my best interest. I don’t trust the system. I’m going to just go ahead and start doing things that I think are going to make a difference because that’s the only power and agency that I have.'”
  • “I’m going to be curious to track that over this election, and certainly the next couple of years to see if their notion of creating change involves basically playing within the existing systems, as well as working around them. I think that there they has a multi-tiered approach.”
  • “The most frequent role they play is The Doer. A lot of  ‘I want somebody to tell me what to do, give me direction, and then I’ll go do it. I don’t really want to be in charge of other people. I don’t really want to be in charge of the process.'”

About the Guest

Dr. Corey Seemiller is an associate professor in the Department of Leadership Studies in Education and Organizations at Wright State University. She is a leading expert on Gen Z and a prolific scholar in the space of leadership education. She’s been interviewed by NPR, The New York Times, Newsy, Cheddar, Bloomberg and is the author of  Generation Z Goes to CollegeGeneration Z Leads,  Generation Z: A Century in the MakingGeneration Z Learns,  and The Student Leadership Competencies Guidebook.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.