ILA Podcast

A More Equitable, A More Just, and A More Liberated Community

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Dr. Jackie Bruce

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Why does she engage in the work? For Dr. Jackie Bruce, it’s crystal clear – and it’s inspiring. “For me, the ‘Why’ is that we are creating a more equitable, more just, more liberated community. That’s the point…not just to improve the bottom line…but so that every single person can be the person they were meant to be. That’s the point.” Her clarity struck me in a powerful way.

Quotes From This Episode

  • “The moment when we acknowledge that anybody can be a leader is huge.”
  • “As the conversations become more complex, as the world becomes closer, as the problems become more nuanced…the old stuff maybe doesn’t fit anymore.”
  • “When I think about why we do this…why do I go into the classroom every day to educate young people on leadership? For me, the ‘Why’ is so that we are creating a more equitable, more just, more liberated community. That’s the point…not just to improve the bottom line…but so that every single person can be the person they were meant to be. That’s the point.”
  • “My K-12, educator friends use the phrase ‘you got to Maslow before you can Bloom.” It’s the idea that we have to have those basic needs met. Kids have to be fed, sheltered, and clothed. They have to feel like they belong. They have to feel secure. And then we can start teaching them reading, writing, and arithmetic.”

About Dr. Jackie Bruce

Dr. Jackie Bruce is an Associate Professor, Director of Graduate Programs  Agricultural & Extension Education and Undergraduate Coordinator, Leadership in Ag & Life Sciences Minor at North Carolina State University. She resides in the department of Agricultural & Human Sciences and teaches courses in leadership development & qualitative research methods, and advises undergraduate and graduate students. She serves as the Co-Director of the Oaks Leadership Scholars Program, is an Equal Opportunity Institute Graduate Scholar, and an LGBT Center Advocate. She enjoys great discussions and direct action related to creating more inclusive communities. Jackie is the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Leadership Education and is honored to work with a vibrant community of leadership scholars and practitioners.

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Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.