Jean Lipman-Blumen is the Thornton F. Bradshaw Professor of Public Policy & Professor of Organizational Behavior at Claremont Graduate University’s Peter F. Drucker and Masatoshi Ito Graduate School of Management. She is the 2010 recipient of ILA’s Lifetime Achievement Award and is the author of the Pulitzer-nominated The Connective Edge, Business Book of the Year Hot Groups, and The Allure of Toxic Leaders, named a top ten business book of 2004 by Fast Company Magazine. This conversation took place at ILA’s Virtual Women and Leadership conference 7 June 2020 and was moderated by Karen Perham-Lippman. Learn more about this conference here.