ILA Podcast

Dialogical Leadership: Understanding How It Impacts Success

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with Rens Van Loon

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This interview explores dialogical leadership. At a high levels, dialogical leadershp involves ideas such as truth is a relational construct between the individual and society. Everything we think about truth is relational and is created in the minds of people. Second, the self-narrative is the story one constructs about the self. In this philosophy, there is no core self, just what we construct and re-construct about ourselves. By understanding the changes in the self narrative over time, we can see how this narrative impacts actions. By understanding that culture is socially created, we have the freedom to help shift it. The core of this work is that by reconstruction of the self narrative and looking at what is truly important, we can bring more of our self to every situation. We do this by asking questions and reflection to assimilate the multiple aspects of the self in our life to bring the gifts of each one into every situation.

About the Guest

headshot of Rens van Loon

Rens Van Loon is a professor and a consultant specialized in leadership and organizational change and transformation.
In 2015, he was appointed the world’s first Professor of Dialogical Leadership in the School of Humanities at Tilburg University, The Netherlands and a director of leadership within Deloitte.
Rens is also a board member of the International Leadership Association.

Host Maureen Metcalf

Maureen Metcalf

Maureen Metcalf brings 30 years of experience and success in the fields of leadership, innovation, and technology. A regular contributor to, Metcalf has authored an award-winning book series on leadership and is the Founder & CEO of the Innovative Leadership Institute. She is the host of an Innovating Leadership, a weekly international podcast that hit the airways in July 2015. As an ILA Fellow, Maureen partners with the International Leadership Associate on a series of global leadership podcasts within the show.