ILA Podcast

Conversation with a Recovering American

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

Guest: Dr. Eric Guthey

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Dr. Eric Guthey joins ILA Fellow Scott Allen in this episode. Among other topics, they discuss:

  • Key differences between European and American leadership studies.
  • The “leadership industries” and the role of leadership fashions.
  • Guthey’s unique research on leadership in the restaurant industry.
  • The importance of interdisciplinary approaches to leadership.

This insightful conversation provides a fresh perspective on leadership, exploring its social and cultural dimensions beyond traditional American frameworks.

Quotes From This Episode

  • “What you have to understand about leadership studies in Europe is that it’s sprung out of sociology.”
  • “There are many countries in Europe where there was no word for leadership before the leadership industries arrived.”
  • “All management fashions introduce themselves by saying, ‘now is a time of unprecedented change.’ Everything’s completely different than was before, and so we need a new idea.”
  • “When you talk to these chefs, they’re amazing people who have amazing self-knowledge of what they do. And so we’re figuring out ways to develop vocabularies and literacies that we can use to both help them and figure out how they can help other industries.”

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott J. Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is an award-winning educator passionate about working with people at all levels and across industries. He spent more than 20 years as a professor of management, and his areas of expertise include leadership, leader development, the future of work, and executive communication.  He is the founder and Principal at S & J Allen, LLC and formerly the Robert M. Ginn Institute Professor for Leadership & Social Responsibility at John Carroll University.

Scott has published more than 60 book chapters and peer-reviewed journal articles. He is the co-author of The Little Book of Leadership Development: 50 Ways to Bring Out the Leader in Every EmployeeEmotionally Intelligent Leadership: A Guide for College StudentsCaptovation: Online Presentations by Design;  and the textbook Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success (2023).

Scott frequently serves as a keynote speaker. In addition, he consults, facilitates workshops, and leads retreats across industries. Learn more about Scott at https://www.scottjallen.net/

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live. Phronesis is the official podcast of the International Leadership Association. 

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