ILA Podcast

Choosing Courage or Comfort

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

with Karen Giliam


Quotes from This Episode
  • “What can I do, continue to do, or start doing, that keeps me on that inward journey of being all that I can be? Doing all that I was meant to do? And then, ‘how can I apply that learning in my work?'”
  • “What occurs to me is that we haven’t taught people how to examine their life, how to examine who they are…”
  • “One thing I find is critically important is that whole notion of voice…and what are you giving your voice to? Or for? On behalf of? And what does that mean to you? And how does that further your values? How does that honor your values?”
  • “What do you choose to do? What do you choose to do with the emotions that you’re feeling? What do you choose to do to honor your values? What do you choose to do to be that voice on behalf of connecting others? On leading in a way that honors your values?”
  • “What do you want to leave this Earth knowing you contributed? And if it’s for a single person, that’s huge. If it’s for a group or a community? Wow.”

About the Guest

Dr. Karen Giliam is Agency Chief Learning Officer & Organization Development Lead, NASA. In addition to her work at NASA, Dr. Gilliam has served as a faculty instructor, business owner, published author, and elected politician. She is also the grandmother of 12 and great grandmother of two. We explore a number of topics including self-knowledge, hope, empathy, storytelling, voice, and choice.

Host Scott J. Allen

Scott Allen

Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is the Standard Products—Dr. James S. Reid Chair in Management at John Carroll University. He is an associate professor and teaches courses in leadership, management skills, and executive communication. He is also a communications coach, consultant, author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. For almost two decades, he’s worked with clients to improve their leadership and communication skills. Learn more about Scott here.

About Phronesis

Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live.